Post by italian4215 on May 24, 2021 19:31:31 GMT -6
Not sure if anyone has ever tried to contact Nintendo directly to get answers. I just called Nintendo and they couldn't find any info, since they are mostly limited to support of more recent games; however, they pointed me to Pokemon.com and said that Pokemon.com has it's own support team. I just emailed them, maybe they have some more specifics that can be beneficial.
On Blue: yep, we were actually discussing that here recently, see the last couple of pages. Yours looks like one of the "later Sandshrew" copies, with a Sandshrew box with an open/flat cart holder (not the "tab close" one earlier boxes had). I expect it would have had manual U/DMG-APEE-USA-1 - which has a black ESRB logo also - and consumer safety U/DMG-USA-7.
Again it's useful to have someone who's an original owner of one, though.
I have been meaning to get in touch with Nintendo/TPC for a while but haven't got around to it. It's possible they have production records that would say what boxes were being printed where when, which would be very useful. Let us know if you get anywhere!
Post by italian4215 on May 25, 2021 9:35:04 GMT -6
Both Nintendo and Pokemon.com (at least the main support) does not have this level of detail that they can provided for this old of a game. I have a an email out to WATA as well to see if I can information on the IMP and what they are expecting for that specific variant of Pokémon Yellow.
yeah, I feared that might be the case :/ It would be great if we could find someone who actually worked in a relevant position in the late 90s/early 2000s, but I don't really know how to go about looking.
Heads up just in case anyone saw www.ebay.com/itm/124742088304 and was curious: no, it is not "one of a kind" and it's not worth $40,000. Most (though not all) "Red text" boxes seem to be "upside down", actually. I have three of them in this room right now.
kelson, yeah, I spotted that listing today! Really curious to see what it will sell for. HA sure seem confused about prints in the description, though, which might put some buyers off if they don't do their own research. There is an identically-graded Sandshrew Red in the same auction which will make a really interesting comparison.
toybot, I believe that was a bundle that was sold right at the time Yellow was released. I think it has the GBC itself, a Yellow cart, and all the paperwork for the system and the game in the box. It does not contain a Yellow game box. You see the system pop up on eBay fairly often but the whole box doesn't show up that much, it's a really cool item!
weeabruh so I got some cool news on the Sandshrew cart pocket / protector case / weight theory! I heard that WATA actually weighs all submitted games before encasing them as a matter of course. So I asked Kenneth Thrower (WATA head honcho) directly on FB whether they tend to come in 15g apart. here's what he said:
"Both [Red and Blue Sandshrew] come with 2 weights about 15 grams apart"
so it looks a lot like you can indeed tell between a flap pocket / protector case (earlier) Sandshrew and an open pocket / no case (later) Sandshrew by weight. And WATA should know which of the copies it has graded are which...
Yikes, here’s a misprint blue on eBay! It’s going to be an exciting couple of weeks to see what happens with this one and the one currently listed at Heritage Auctions! Is there any information on how many printing companies/locations there were for the first gen boxes? With “first production” copies being so sought after, I hope more and more information is discovered to clear up the uncertainty!
That one's been up for a while. It's pretty ludicrously priced for the grade.
Nintendo did all the manufacture in house so far as I'm aware. We believe the error print boxes were the first 500,000 or so of the Sandshrew print of Blue, produced in a Nintendo box factory somewhere in the USA.
Post by italian4215 on Jun 21, 2021 22:55:27 GMT -6
Anyone know anything about the pcb boards? I have acquired another CIB pokemon yellow, no ESRB box, black ESRB cart, and a -2 manual. All 100% authentic, I bought a sealed game (seal was teared in a corner and box had some damage), which yes, I opened to make my other CIB a near mint which I plan to get graded. Anyways, for the sake of my question, my other CIB had a no ESRB box, a white ESRB cart, and a -1 manual. Interestingly enough, the pcb board on both are identical in terms of the etching, but some of the components have different numbers.
Anyhow - there are various dates on there. The battery has a YY-MM date, so your white-ESRB cart's battery is from July 1999, your black-ESRB cart's battery is from November 1999. Then there are YYWW or YWW dates on the other chips (WW is week number). Your black ESRB cart has 9944 on the small chip, 9942 on the medium, and 947 on the large, so basically overall, that cart dates to around Nov 14 to Nov 20 1999 (that's week 47).
Your white-ESRB cart has chip dates 9933 and 9925; can't see the small-chip date in the pic. So that's August 8 to August 14 1999 (week 33).
If you post pics of the back of the board I can tell you the month the PCB was manufactured; it usually matches the latest chip date.
So basically your sealed copy is a few months newer than your other one, in all likelihood, and all the dates and contents match up with my guide/theories pretty well.