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Post by blue_label_mew on Jan 23, 2022 9:00:57 GMT -6
The pop reports for the 2010 design contests now are making more sense. The total pop reports are around 40+ each card on avg compared to the art academy cards which are around 20+. This makes sense if the 2010 design cards had double the release. On a side note, the 2009 design contests cards are still trailing far behind. Also if you if you look at pichu’s thread from 2019, the pop for the design cards were 37 on avg. The pops haven’t increased that much in the past 3 years even after they became popular/expensive and worthy of grading, which suggest to me that they are still limited cards without too many extra copies. efour.proboards.com/thread/14369/2009-illustration-contest-quantity-query
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Post by Frosty.Puppy on Jan 23, 2022 11:07:07 GMT -6
For the 2010 Illustration set in particular, I seriously wouldn’t look into the population report too much. Especially as a comparison against Art Academy cards. Even though the stats you mention look correct, it’s obscure.
For example, a seller on Y!J in 2011 only a year after release, sold 8+ sets. In relation that’s 1/5 of all cards in the report already not to mention the alleged 200 winner copies as these are more than likely ‘extras’. At least we know the 100 AA is a definitive number + a few extras.
Absolutely agree with the limited Pichu/Arceus sets. I would imagine we’ve seen the bulk of rare cards from the PoGo hype, Covid, Logan Paul, Spike in prices. I believe if all these recent episodes haven’t made owners of rare cards public their more than likely going to stay hidden for foreseeable future.
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Post by PichuFan on Jan 24, 2022 4:05:31 GMT -6
I put together my thoughts in the form of a PSA population comparison post between the 2009, 2010 and AA sets last year which can be found at: efour.proboards.com/post/422559. There was a lot of uniformity when looking at both 2009 and 2010 as if to imply that full sets had been leaked out at some point rather than the cards originating from the winners organically. This wasn't seen in the AA contests, but we've since seen a lot of extra copies of those appear on the market that were previously not known to exist. I think right now I'd conclude something along the lines of: - The 2009 contest had a small number of extra copies of each card leaked out (between 5 and 10);
- The 2010 contest had a large number of extra copies of each card leaked out (between 50 and 200);
- The 2015 Art Academy has a growing known number of extra copies of each card leaked out (at least 13).
For futuer reference, as of the time of this post the average number of cards graded by PSA for each contest is: - 4 - 2009 Design Contest;
- 47 - 2010 Design Contest;
- 27 - 2015 Art Academy (non-Japanese);
- 12 - 2015 Art Academy (Japanese).
Hopefully we'll soon have additional pop reports for CGC and a working one for BGS to throw into the mix. I know quite a few Art Academy cards are BGS-graded but not included above.
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