Identifying Shadowless & Unlimited Base set Boxes & Packs

[acebren]

Sept 24, 2019 6:58:13 GMT -6 pokemonargentinatcg said:

So if there are mixed packs, is there any chance to open a 1st Ed. holofoil out of a Shadowless pack?

Also, is there any chance that a 1st Ed. Black Triangle error pack has 1st Ed. inside?

As has been mentioned, anything is possible, neither of the above has ever been documented, second scenario is extremely unlikely though, these are unlimited packs accidentally stamped/printed with a 1st ed symbol, it would even be a very very long stretch for them to contain shadowless cards 

[surfingpikachu]

Found this in another thread - these tips would fall between variants 3 and 4:

Shadowless (and 1st edition Base) packs say "11 Tradable Game Cards". Regular unlimited base packs say "11 ADDITIONAL GAME CARDS" (yes, all capitalized).

Also the last sentence on the "upper half" of the back of the boosters saying "Each player must have a 60-card deck of Pokémon cards to play" is missing from the shadowless boosters..

[surfnsnow]

^ Hey there!

[jkanly]

Apr 7, 2020 11:02:20 GMT -6 surfingpikachu said:

Found this in another thread - these tips would fall between variants 3 and 4:

Shadowless (and 1st edition Base) packs say "11 Tradable Game Cards". Regular unlimited base packs say "11 ADDITIONAL GAME CARDS" (yes, all capitalized).

Also the last sentence on the "upper half" of the back of the boosters saying "Each player must have a 60-card deck of Pokémon cards to play" is missing from the shadowless boosters..

I've updated the guide to reflect the differences. Thank you! 

[[Ash]]

Amazing work! I wish there was this much information around in one place for the other WOTC packs as well.

[[Ash]]

Jul 6, 2017 16:47:39 GMT -6 jkanly said:

1999-2000 Copywrite Booster Packs:

Packs containing 1999-2000 copywrite cards include pack variants 9 through 11.

Booster variant #9 - U.S.A made packs will include 1999-2000 non-holos only
Booster variant #10 - Australian made packs will include 1999-2000 non-holos and may or may not include 1999-2000 holos.
Booster variant #11 - U.K. made packs will include 1999-2000 non-holos and may or may not include 1999-2000 holos. Note: The last distribution of U.K. packs containing 1999-2000 holo cards were distributed loose (not enclosed inside of a booster box), which were indicated by Polish information labels adhered to the reverse of the pack. Packs with these labels therefore have the highest chance of containing 1999-2000 holo cards.

I have recently acquired variant #11 and would like to add a picture of the Polish Information Label at the back to clarify. This thread has helped me out a lot and i am sure it will continue to help many others!

Any other pics of information needed i'd be happy to help anyone!

[jkanly]

[Ash] Thank you! I'm very glad that the guide was helpful to you and others. I use it as a reference myself sometimes too

Will add this to the guide!

[awsmofo]

Wonder if there is any insight to sealed blister packs since we can’t see back of the pack itself... is there a way to know for sure on shadowless?

[wise_wailmer]

May 4, 2020 2:08:10 GMT -6 [Ash] said:

Jul 6, 2017 16:47:39 GMT -6 jkanly said:

1999-2000 Copywrite Booster Packs:

Packs containing 1999-2000 copywrite cards include pack variants 9 through 11.

Booster variant #9 - U.S.A made packs will include 1999-2000 non-holos only
Booster variant #10 - Australian made packs will include 1999-2000 non-holos and may or may not include 1999-2000 holos.
Booster variant #11 - U.K. made packs will include 1999-2000 non-holos and may or may not include 1999-2000 holos. Note: The last distribution of U.K. packs containing 1999-2000 holo cards were distributed loose (not enclosed inside of a booster box), which were indicated by Polish information labels adhered to the reverse of the pack. Packs with these labels therefore have the highest chance of containing 1999-2000 holo cards.

I have recently acquired variant #11 and would like to add a picture of the Polish Information Label at the back to clarify. This thread has helped me out a lot and i am sure it will continue to help many others!

Any other pics of information needed i'd be happy to help anyone!

Sorry to bump an old guide but I have some more info to add on the UK made for Poland sale packs:
There are a couple minor differences between stickers on the backs, they all say the same thing basically however some do not have Bolded title text, or a dash on the second line, also there is a tab after the distributor line on some

[wobafett]

Green wing with no logos - Are there any documented boxes with unlimited packs inside?

Green wing with logos and multiple countries - Are there any documented boxes with shadowless packs?

Not talking about reseals but original from wotc.

[wise_wailmer]

I tried out the PSA research request function to see if they would grade the packs 4th print polish sticker and this is the response I got. Cool that they will accept it, but dropping it to a 7 means its pretty much useless, better to just peel the sticker off

"Thank you for your patience with this request.
We will accept these packs, but they will affect the grade, starting at a PSA 7. The label itself will read "base foil pack" (UK), so it will not mention the Polish distribution sticker. The pack itself was made in the UK, so that is how it will be labeled, unless the pack itself was made in Poland, and the publication information is in Polish.
I hope this helps!"

[[Ash]]

Jun 29, 2021 6:51:26 GMT -6 wise_wailmer said:

I tried out the PSA research request function to see if they would grade the packs 4th print polish sticker and this is the response I got. Cool that they will accept it, but dropping it to a 7 means its pretty much useless, better to just peel the sticker off

"Thank you for your patience with this request.
We will accept these packs, but they will affect the grade, starting at a PSA 7. The label itself will read "base foil pack" (UK), so it will not mention the Polish distribution sticker. The pack itself was made in the UK, so that is how it will be labeled, unless the pack itself was made in Poland, and the publication information is in Polish.
I hope this helps!"

I dunno about useless, as stated in this thread it's thought that you are more likely of pulling a 1999-2000 holo out of one of these packs with the sticker on so removing it would do more harm than good imo.

Though to me grading a pack altogether is useless if you are doing it for the actual grade 1-10, you don't have to be an expert grader to tell if a pack is in good shape or not, the only reason would be to add credibility, to help reassure that it's genuine and not tampered with. (Though I'm aware PSA has graded resealed packs before)

Interesting how they would give it a 7 because of the label though considering they were folding packs for years and marking them as 10's lol.. imo packs shouldn't be given a grade just an authentic label, if the packs damaged don't grade it ¯\_ (ツ)_/¯

[arjun]

Hey guys quick question: has anyone seen 1st edition base set boxes WITH the WOTC logo on the wrap?

I know they are usually blank but I recently acquired a box with the WOTC logos on the wrap.

[pokedoom]

Here are some images of the #7 variant, 1st edition on unlimited wrapper with no black tirange.

[charizardespana]

Amazing information! What is considered heavy for long crimp Packs? Can't find that information anywhere. 👍